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WEDNESDAY, 7:00 PM JANUARY 19, 2005
Chairman Nettleton called the meeting to order, and established a quorum. Members of the Elmore County Planning and Zoning Commission present were Chairman Nick Nettleton, Vice-Chairman Al Sobtzak, Patti Osborn, Todd Waite, Doug King, Courtney Hiler, and K. C. Duerig. Also present were Attorney of Record Phil Miller, and staff members Traci Lefever, Hemi Kuannark, and Danette Arbuckle.
1. A&A DEVELOPMENT – NORTHVIEW SUBDIVISION
Jim Howard, engineer representing applicant, stated he is available to answer any questions.
Richard Livingston stated he lives on the southeast corner of the plat. He is concerned with rapid expansion without city services, such as water or sewer. Area wells already have nitrate contamination. He felt this could be urban sprawl. Hazardous wastes coming from freeway to Grandview site travel in front of this proposal. He felt water usage should be looked at.
Anthony Martin stated he was on the east side of the development. He objects to vicinity being described as farm ground in the application and proposal site as barren land. The land has always been farmed and it is more productive to stay as a farm. He stated there were blank lines on the application. He also pointed out the fire district wanted fire hydrants. The closest fire hydrant is 4 miles away on the other side of railroad tracks. He was concerned that the water rights for this property would go somewhere else, causing more overall water usage. He was concerned about how the applicant was going to provide public services to the subdivision such as school busses. He also stated not being able to see the stars at night because lights from the subdivision would destroy a natural feature of major importance. He does not want to be disturbed by neighbors with Christmas lights.
Sid Wing stated he has some of the same concerns, but favors the proposal. He stated it was good to look at the water rights and usage when creating a proposal from agriculture to residential usage. He felt that developed lands should work to acquire water rights. This is a good development.
Catherine Brown stated she would like to see development slow down until the aquifer has a chance to recharge.
Steven Nemeth stated his concerns are with the unstable power, contaminated water in the shallow wells nearby, and concerns with all the septic tanks with the shallow topsoil. He has concerns with dust and truck traffic hauling hazardous waste. He stated there was a sink hole on the property and wanted to know what their plans with that were. He would like to see smart planning.
Jim Howard stated the water rights would not be transferred to another property, but would stay with the landowners. He stated night sky is a sensitive point, and things can be done in construction to mitigate it, but it happens. He stated the high nitrates and contaminated wells are from farmers not from septic tanks and asked them to visit with Health Officials. He understands the water issues and believes that a residential subdivision uses 60% less water than agriculture does. He stated the truck traffic with hazardous waste will diminish since they are starting to come in more by railcar. He met with the fire chief, they will put in a 10,000 gallon water tank that will be able to be used not only for this subdivision, but the surrounding areas as well. When development comes in larger demands, then Idaho Power will upgrade, but it is their responsibility.
Brian Anderson, applicant, stated that water rights shares can be distributed to landowners. P. Osborn stated yes, for irrigation, unless transferred to domestic, this might increase the water usage. K. Duerig stated each parcel would have a number of shares. He wanted to address a community water system. J. Howard stated it was difficult to satisfy the DEQ for their requirements. That is why there are more individual wells. The water rights would be used in conjunction with domestic water rights.
Steve Nemeth stated this proposal is on the last 5 miles of 90 miles of an irrigation power line. Power goes off periodically with no immediate service from Idaho Power.
Richard Livingston stated he wanted to add that those power lines from the Bruneau feeder are the longest in the state and most unreliable.
Anthony Martin stated the power lines from town stop about six feet from the Bruneau line. Other subdivisions in area are wired on town line.
Chairman Nettleton hearing no further comment from the public or applicant, held this public hearing open for further comment until February 2, 2005.
2. BOB BAKER – PAR THREE ESTATES
Bob Baker stated he met with the city the day after the last meeting. He does not have written comment from them. P. Osborn asked if they gave him a letter. B. Baker stated no. Chairman Nettleton asked if he recalled what they had agreed to. B. Baker stated he agreed to put in dry lines for sewer and water. He would not have to install curbs, gutters or sidewalks.
Chairman Nettleton closed this public hearing.
APPROVE PREVIOUS MINUTES
C. Hiler motioned to approve minutes for 01/05/05 as written. K. Duerig seconded the motion. Aye vote was unanimous, motion carried.
APPROVE PREVIOUS FCOs (none)
1. A&A DEVELOPMENT – NORTHVIEW SUBDIVISION
Chairman Nettleton felt they should look into water rights with new developments. A. Sobtzak stated he felt this could be taken up in the Ordinance committee. Bob Baker stated he is a member of the Mountain Home Groundwater Advisory Board, and issues like this are being taken up with the Legislature, and should be resolved soon.
C. Hiler motioned to postpone this agenda item until February 2, 2005. D. King seconded. Aye vote was unanimous.
2. BOB BAKER – PAR THREE ESTATES
C. Hiler motioned to approve the preliminary plat with the condition that a note is placed on the final plat stating there will be no further splitting of lots, and that no curb, gutter, or sidewalk will be necessary, and that the applicant will install dry lines for water and sewer.
K. Duerig seconded the motion. Aye vote was unanimous.
Bob Baker asked for the condition of no further lot splits as a note on the final plat be removed. He felt that if they would hook into the city water and sewer that this would prohibit him from being able to split the lots further even if they were in the City. Chairman Nettleton stated they will take this matter up again on February 2, 2005.
3. AIRPORT HAZARD ZONE – clarification
There was general discussion on the conflicting definitions of the AHZ. The consensus of the Commission was to follow page 23 of the Zoning and Development Ordinance where only the height restrictions would be followed around the Mountain Home Municipal Airport.
4. LETTER OF INFORMATION AND THE 3:1 LOT DEPTH TO FRONTAGE RATIO
There was general discussion on the 3:1 lot depth to frontage ratio. The consensus was that wording should be “maximum” to avoid the creation of rifle range lots. Other wording in the proposed amendment is okay.
5. HIGHWAY DISTRICT LETTER
There was general discussion on the letter from the Mountain Home Highway District regarding their proposed requirements for subdivisions. Concerns were brought up on several items. Consensus was that Chairman Nettleton will visit with the Highway District and they will take this item up again on February 2, 2005.
6. ITEMS FROM THE PUBLIC
Mrs. Butcher stated her husband and her would like to purchase property in the Airport Commercial Zone (ACZ) that was used at one time for a restaurant. Restaurants are not permitted in the ACZ, and they would like to have this use grandfathered. P. Miller looked at the Local Land Use Planning Act (Idaho Code Title 67 Chapter 65) and stated since this facility had another use in between being a gas station/restaurant, that it was no longer considered grandfathered and the use would not be permitted.
Nick Nettleton, Chairman Date
Bonnie Sharp, Director Date