COMMISSIONERS
MINUTES
November 14, 2007
The Commissioners held a public hearing on the above date in the Commissioners
Room, basement of the Elmore County Courthouse, 150 South 4th East, Mountain
Home, Idaho.
The public hearing was to hear public comment on:
1. Proposed text changes to the April 7, 2004 Comprehensive Plan, Chapter 5 Land
Use, specifically the Land Use Categories/Districts and applicable Goals and
Objectives required to review applications under the proposed districts. The
proposed new Land Use Categories/Districts are: a. Planned Community (PC) b.
Planned Unit Development (PUD) and c. Planned Unit Development District (PUDD).
2. A proposed ordinance amendment to amend the Elmore County Zoning and
Development Ordinance to allow for development of Planned Communities, Planned
Unit Developments, and Planned Unit Developments Districts.
3. A proposed ordinance amendment of the Elmore County Zoning and Development
Ordinance to adopt Chapter 4 – Planned Community Standards to allow for the
orderly and regulated development of Planned Communities (PC).
4. A proposed ordinance amendment of the Elmore County Zoning and Development
Ordinance to repeal the current PUD ordinance, Article XV-1 Planned Unit
Development (PUD) and to adopt Chapter 5 – Planned Unit Development Standards.
5. A proposed ordinance amendment of the Elmore County Zoning and Development
Ordinance to adopt Chapter 6 – Planned Unit Development District Standards.
Present at the meeting were Chairman Larry Rose, Commissioners Connie Cruser and
Arlie Shaw. Also present was Clerk Marsa Grimmett and Prosecuting Attorney Tina
Schindele, Civil Attorney Richard Roats and Mr. Mark Pechennino, consultant
regarding the proposed ordinances
Dan Weitz, 4343 Old Wing Road, Baker City, Oregon, appeared and asked about the
density of lots. Regarding his proposed development he explained how this would
affect him. Mr. Pechennino explained the density is dwelling units, not lots.
Mr. Weitz then asked the Board to act quickly on the ordinances.
Todd Lakey, 17 12th Avenue South, Nampa, Idaho, appeared and gave the
Commissioners packages of suggested changes for the Planned Community Standards,
Planned Unit Development Standards and Planned Unit Development District
Standards. Mr. Lakey spoke regarding the qualifications of the specialists
and/or experts required for various aspects of the Planned Communities. He felt
experience should also be an option. Mr. Pechennino stated the qualifications
are to protect the County. Mr. Lakey stated on page 8 of the proposed PC
Ordinance it reads under 3. b. The town center or village shall include
commercial nodes and community gathering areas sized to meet the needs of PC
residents. He would like the “shall” in the sentence to read “may”. Also the
next sentence “The town center shall also include a mix of uses, including high
density/clustered residential, commercial, retail, office, and civic uses.
Churches and religious centers may also be allowed”. He feels the high density
is inappropriate and should be optional. Mr. Pechennino stated the developer
defines what the high density will be and only 3.5 percent of the gross acreage
of the PC will be the town center or village center. Discussion followed and the
paragraph will be changed.
Mr. Lakey went on to discuss several other suggestions in all the proposed
ordinances such as open spaces, periodic evaluation, and amendment or
termination of the final development agreement. Adjustments were made to the
ordinance by Prosecutor Schindele. Under Article IX-4 Planned Community Required
findings, 1.A.9-4 the word plans will be replaced by laws. 9.A.9-4 reads: The
Planned Community Development Plan (PCDP) and Economic Analysis have
demonstrated that upon build out, the Planned community will have a reduction of
vehicle trips, contribute to the area’s jobs-housing balance; place higher
density housing near commercial centers. Mr. Lakey was concerned about “will
have a reduction of vehicle trips”. Mr. Pechennino and Prosecutor Schindele
discussed what the intent was of the section. Mr. Lakey went on to review the
PUD and PUDD proposed ordinances stating his proposed changes are the same in
some places as the PC ordinance that was just reviewed. Mr. Lakey stated his
main request is that both the PUD and PUDD are required to be in the area of
impact or have a small portion in the area of impact and he would like them not
be limited to the area of impact. Mr Pechennino explained why this was a
requirement and feels the PUD and PUDD proposed ordinances have no place outside
the municipality.
Spencer Hafen, 305 South 3rd Street, Panaca, Nevada, stated regarding the
discussion of the town center and the village centers, if the purpose is to
prohibit low density in those areas he suggested language pertaining to that
should be included instead of just addressing high density. He also stated Mr.
Lakey covered most of the other points he was concerned with. Mr. Hafen asked if
open space can count as a right of way and landscaping and Mr. Pechennino stated
yes.
Mary Frisch, 155 South Pronghorn Drive, Boise (Mayfield area), stated she was
concerned that the applicants of the large scale developments can write their
own comprehensive plans and ordinances and that will put an additional burden on
County officials and the concerned public who would have to review and comment
on these documents. Ms. Frisch explained the documents guiding growth should not
be developer driven but County driven. Ms. Frisch is asking for a final decision
to be postponed until town meetings can be held. Ms. Frisch also has concerns
regarding large communities being allowed outside areas of city impact. Ms.
Frisch closed saying she would like the Counties to listen to the agencies that
comment on the impact of these communities and to balance the growth in Elmore
County. Mr. Pechennino stated there were town meetings held on these ordinances
to gather comment in the community. Ms. Frisch stated she was unaware of the
town meetings.
Greg Johnson, 2037 East Terza, Meridian, Idaho, spoke that all of these
developments depend on the market. Mr. Johnson stated as a developer he asks the
questions of would he want to live in this community and raise his family. Mr.
Johnson stated he was working on a community in Ada County that has taken two
years. Mr. Johnson stated he is in agreement with Mr. Pechennino regarding the
PUD and PUDD that they need to be close to the city of impact to make the
community work. Mr. Johnson stated he would like the Commissioners to make sure
these ordinances are as clear and defined as much as possible.
Chairman Rose asked what a circulation system was. Mr. Pechennino stated the
road system in the Planned Community. Discussion followed on the various terms
PPCP, etc. and should those terms be in the definitions. When the terms are used
for the first time, they are defined at that time and are not included under the
definitions. On page 20 in the PC ordinance there is a workshop that shall be
held with transmitted agencies and service providers within 15 days and was that
enough time. Mr. Pechennino stated it was adequate time and the developers are
responsible to hold the workshop. Open spaces were discussed regarding the plan
to ensure that open spaces are within a reasonable walking distance from
residences. Mr. Pechennino explained the open spaces should be close to
residences for more convenient use by the residents. Variations of roadway
sections may be allowed with Director approval. Mr. Pechennino stated the
various highway districts would still have a say if the developer and director
proposed changes. On page 34 the fees were discussed. The appeal fee is listed
as $50.00. Chairman Rose stated the hall where the meetings were held charges
$25.00 and the Planning and Zoning Commission member fees are $30 per meeting
therefore the $50 fee does not cover the cost of an appeal. Mr. Pechennino
stated the fees might need to be increased.
The public hearing was continued to November 26, 2007 at 9:00 a.m.
Motion to recess by Rose, second by Cruser.
ROSE - AYE
CRUSER - AYE
SHAW - AYE Motion carried and so ordered.
/S/ LARRY E. ROSE, Chairman
ATTEST: /S/ MARSA GRIMETT, Clerk